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Yeah - I have voiced it here many times. Stupid term created by the media it condemn and pigeon hole Horror/exploitation films..
Giganticface pretty much brings up all my points too, though I think the term is meant to be like porn in that the films are just an excuse to string together violent,torture scenes in the same way porn does with sex (ie the plot is uninteresting or non existent). The term doesn't mean torture that sexually excites (like hardcore BDSM etc). With that in mind (as I have said before) we need to start calling comedies 'Chuckle Porn) |
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i use the term and i think it makes sense in some cases. i think the term porn, usually used of a suffix on the internet has become a way of describing anything kind of gratuitous (like food porn, shoe porn, whatever else the internet has decided to call porn) so if the main focus of a movie is some one being tortured i would call it torture porn and that doesn't really mean it's a bad movie even though that is a derogatory term. if when i hear people talking about the move they mainly talk about the gore and the violence not the plot or characters i feel that it is fair to call it torture porn. i know i might sound like a prick and i am not trying to but i don't think it's really so bad to call something torture porn.
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Reading Steve Jones book on the subject a the moment:
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Nope, I agree with the term "torture porn", it has no place in horror either. It's just another genre of exploitation movies. Take a look at the Japanese torture porn flick Grotesque for instance.. it has no substance. It's just a mindless torture porn movie, which is why I refuse to watch it. I know how it starts and how it ends thanks to Wikipedia, and I'm glad I didn't waste 72 minutes of my time on it.
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"But these films have a plot!" So can sex porn films. :P
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I haven't seen Saw yet, but I have seen some, if not all, of the sequels. I agree that the original Saw isn't really a torture porn movie, mostly because, iirc, the two characters aren't being forced to make a choice. I mean, technically they are being forced to make a choice, but I mean, without a "you have 60 seconds, otherwise you will die" kind of thing. The sequels however, I would classify as torture porn movies.
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I think Saw and Hostel - probably the most famous of the films branded with that title very much belong in horror genre. They are also 2 films that I enjoyed..Same goes for some of the French New Wave that has been labeled Torture Porn - titles like Haute Tension, Inside, Martyrs and Frontier(s).
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I like the term. And it was certainly originally a derogatory term. Basically still is, but widely miss-used now. There are very few films that have long and frequent scenes of torture... which is financially wise, because there aren't many who'd want to see it. Kills, gore and suspense aren't torture. An antagonist forcing anguish on a character is torture, but cinematic suspense isn't . Saw, as an example, is certainly not torture porn. People who want to insult the Saw genre market and audience, love to call it torture porn. And for it to be torture porn, all scenes leading up to the long and frequent torture scenes would need to be basically without story and cinematic merit. I would call a The Girl Next Door (2007) torture porn, with all negativity intact. Based on a true story, the production was certainly a crime against the child actors involved. A cinematic dramatization was unnecessary, where a documentary could fulfill any public awareness purpose, if there is one. This film as entertainment was a travesty. Last edited by Sculpt; 05-20-2016 at 03:30 PM. |
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The thing is that the media created the term for Saw and Hostel. But you are right in thinking that the term doesn't fit these films. And of course, as the term became popular films began to be made to deliberately fit the term Torture Porn and to cash in on it.
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