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Elvis_Christ 12-12-2011 11:58 PM

Posts need to be approved by a moderator?
 
Anyone else getting this?

I seem to be able to post in general ok but anywhere else this comes up.

neverending 12-13-2011 01:07 AM

One of the site admistrators was here earlier, setting up some antispam measures. This may have been an unintended side effect. We'll try and get it taken care of.

Elvis_Christ 12-13-2011 01:30 AM

Cool. Thanks!

_____V_____ 12-13-2011 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 913138)
Anyone else getting this?

I seem to be able to post in general ok but anywhere else this comes up.

Is it for all posts, or for posts which require an image/video link?

If it's the latter, then it might be an anti-spam measure. Let me see if I see anything on my front.

Have you posted any such posts, Elvis? If yes, then in which threads?


P.S. - Just approved your "Last Seen Movie" post, Elvis. It should show up now.

This is specifically for posts which include links to external websites. They are subjected to Moderator Approval.

roshiq 12-13-2011 12:15 PM

In last seen Asian movie thread, I just experienced the same shit. At first I though I did something wrong, then 2nd time of the same post, I noticed the moderator approval thing. And meantime posted a back up in the Last seen movie thread. Minutes later, saw my doubles posts on the same thing on the LSAM thread but no post in LSM. Then again, after some moments, both of my same posts on LSAM thread gone & the back-up one on Last seen movie thread appeared!:rolleyes:

Sorry for the trouble, guys.:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 913147)
Is it for all posts, or for posts which require an image/video link?

If it's the latter, then it might be an anti-spam measure. Let me see if I see anything on my front.

Have you posted any such posts, Elvis? If yes, then in which threads?


P.S. - Just approved your "Last Seen Movie" post, Elvis. It should show up now.

This is specifically for posts which include links to external websites. They are subjected to Moderator Approval.

Why regular members should have go through this anti-spam measures? That's bit frustrating.

hammerfan 12-13-2011 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roshiq (Post 913201)
Why regular members should have go through this anti-spam measures? That's bit frustrating.

If it means I don't have to deal with the real spammers, I'm more than happy to have it.

newb 12-13-2011 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammerfan (Post 913202)
If it means I don't have to deal with the real spammers, I'm more than happy to have it.

Gotta agree....the spamming is out of control.

Elvis_Christ 12-13-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 913147)
Have you posted any such posts, Elvis? If yes, then in which threads?

I posted in the "Exploitation and Video Nasties" thread (without links/pics) and the approval message came up but then it didn't come up when I posted again in the quotes thread.

Not sure what's up there? I think there may be a bug that if I've previously posted a link in the thread it comes up that my post needs to be approved.

I'm all cool with the anti-spam changes just a few bugs that need sorting out.

EDIT: I think if the post ends up on a page where I've previously posted a link the message will come up.

wizard of gore 12-13-2011 08:15 PM

yup same thing just happend to me on 3 wishes thread

neverending 12-13-2011 08:50 PM

There's nothing the mods can do about this- an administrator needs to fix it.

TheWickerFan 12-14-2011 02:49 AM

Hopefully the administrator that V mentioned, El Gato, will stick around and honor requests from the mods.

Fearonsarms 12-16-2011 09:55 AM

I'm getting these messages even here in general-it looks like it happens if you make a "long" post so I won't bother writing much then.

Elvis_Christ 12-16-2011 05:20 PM

I'm not sure what sets it off. Posting at a certain time of the night/day? Posted stuff yesterday with no problems so I don't know.

Bit of a pain in the ass and kinda kills discussion a bit... but I'm sure it'll get sorted :)

cheebacheeba 12-17-2011 03:28 AM

I just experienced this - tried to post in the comic "last read" thread.
Not a huge post, but larger than this one will be.
Got the same message when I tried to post it, and this was more than 24 hours ago.
I agree with the need for certain measures at this point but I'm rather against their sloppy, poorly thought out implementation.
At least leave some kind of power in the hands of a "moderator" who actually visits the place occasionally, to address such issues.
I don't know if my post will eventually make it through, or is simply lost now...I can imagine rather a large back-log of these "to approve" posts piling up, and someone simply not bothering with them.
I'd re-type/re-post the same, or a similar post but at this stage I don't think there would be a point if the same thing stands to happen again...

Sistinas666 12-17-2011 03:56 AM

Disregaurd that last statement, lol.

ChronoGrl 12-18-2011 06:35 AM

Wow, what seriously crappy functionality. Way to kill conversations. May not be the Admin's fault, but I might rather see SPAM than wait a day to see my comments "approved."

The SPAM filter needs to be more advanced is my guess. Lame.

TheWickerFan 12-18-2011 07:25 AM

Hello?? Horror?? El Gato?? Any other administrator??:confused:

Bizarre 12-18-2011 07:26 AM

Mine aren't being blocked?

fortunato 12-18-2011 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 913577)
Wow, what seriously crappy functionality. Way to kill conversations. May not be the Admin's fault, but I might rather see SPAM than wait a day to see my comments "approved."

The SPAM filter needs to be more advanced is my guess. Lame.

Yeah, agreed. It really does put a stop to conversation; it makes me not want to post anything. Hopefully they can get it fixed soon.

ferretchucker 12-18-2011 07:46 AM

It's happening to me maybe once every 5 posts. And not all of them have had external links :confused:

Elvis_Christ 12-18-2011 02:26 PM

I think the board needed some extra mods to help out rather than implementing something like this. NE and ___V___ (and zwoti?) are the only ones holding the fort (and they do a great job don't get me wrong) and could do with a helping hand cleaning up spambots etc. Plus they will be extra busy having to approve posts all the time. None of the other mods are regular visitors/users on here so it's kinda pointless still having them as moderators. They should be bumped back to regular accounts and pass the responsibility should be passed onto the people that actually use the board.

....just a thought because with this system in place there almost needs to be a mod on round the clock for the board to function normally.

ferretchucker 12-18-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 913603)
I think the board needed some extra mods to help out rather than implementing something like this. NE and ___V___ (and zwoti?) are the only ones holding the fort (and they do a great job don't get me wrong) and could do with a helping hand cleaning up spambots etc. Plus they will be extra busy having to approve posts all the time. None of the other mods are regular visitors/users on here so it's kinda pointless still having them as moderators. They should be bumped back to regular accounts and pass the responsibility should be passed onto the people that actually use the board.

....just a thought because with this system in place there almost needs to be a mod on round the clock for the board to function normally.

Exactly what I was thinking. If anything it gives the mods LESS time to work on stopping spam.

Elvis_Christ 12-19-2011 07:59 PM

:mad:

This any closer to being sorted out? The board really sucks to use at the moment.

neverending 12-19-2011 08:43 PM

V is away on a trip for several days, and he seems to be the only one the admins will communicate with.

TheWickerFan 12-20-2011 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neverending (Post 913698)
V is away on a trip for several days, and he seems to be the only one the admins will communicate with.

That must be frustrating as hell. It's like they're playing head games.

I haven't encountered this problem yet. If you want to hold a conversation with someone, would private messaging be affected?

roshiq 12-20-2011 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 913603)
I think the board needed some extra mods to help out rather than implementing something like this. NE and ___V___ (and zwoti?) are the only ones holding the fort (and they do a great job don't get me wrong) and could do with a helping hand cleaning up spambots etc. Plus they will be extra busy having to approve posts all the time. None of the other mods are regular visitors/users on here so it's kinda pointless still having them as moderators. They should be bumped back to regular accounts and pass the responsibility should be passed onto the people that actually use the board.

....just a thought because with this system in place there almost needs to be a mod on round the clock for the board to function normally.

Totally agree.

There are many online forums where they have some fine measures to control spamming, like to share a link or post an image a member have to be regular & become enable to do such things after having a decent no. of posts (say 50 or 100 or may be more) in the forum/discussions. I think that 'unknown & irregular' admin of ours could apply this sorta measures instead of blocking posts from almost everyone here & later getting approved by the mods.

Already we have only couple of number of regular members here actually, which is pretty less than a year ago (I guess). Now, who knows...this sort of extra precautionary measure can cost HDC some more in coming days as it becoming frustrating everyday.

roshiq 12-20-2011 07:37 AM

Totally agree with Elvis.

There are many online forums where they have some fine measures to control spamming, like to share a link or post an image a member have to be regular & become enable to do such things after having a decent no. of posts (say 50 or 100 or may be more) in the forum/discussions. I think that 'unknown & irregular' admin of ours could apply this sorta measures instead of blocking posts from almost everyone here & later getting approved by the mods.

Already we have only couple of number of regular members here actually, which is pretty less than a year ago (I guess). Now, who knows...this sort of extra precautionary measure can cost HDC some more in coming days as it becoming frustrating everyday.

roshiq 12-20-2011 07:39 AM

Things getting pretty annoying now, now it even blocking me to even post in this tread.

hammerfan 12-20-2011 07:54 AM

And yet I've had no problem posting anything in any thread.

Fearonsarms 12-20-2011 08:24 AM

This is getting more random by the day-trying to post my music collection in Elvis's thread there's been a day where I could post two pages, another day one page then yesterday five pages. Also it's not just long posts AND/OR links to external websites as posting my albums of the year I was able to make four posts but not the fifth. I agree with wicker it's messing with people's heads.

Elvis_Christ 12-21-2011 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roshiq (Post 913722)
Now, who knows...this sort of extra precautionary measure can cost HDC some more in coming days as it becoming frustrating everyday.

Yeah I was thinking the same. If I wasn't a regular I don't think I'd be persevering with it because it's really frustrating and annoying. I end up missing heaps of posts because they don't turn up for a day later and threads are becoming quite disjointed.

ChronoGrl 12-21-2011 03:31 PM

:mad:

Can I be a mod so I can approve my own posts?

TheWickerFan 12-21-2011 04:12 PM

The administrators are a joke. I love how they're staying away so the mods get all the complaints about something they have almost no control over.

If only we all had the e-mail addresses of the admins. The flood of complaints heading their way would almost certainly get them to do their jobs.

Sistinas666 12-21-2011 07:22 PM

I'm not going to give up but this is horse shit.....:mad:


Randomly my posts show up but if I type too much they don't?

_____V_____ 12-21-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 913603)
I think the board needed some extra mods to help out rather than implementing something like this. NE and ___V___ (and zwoti?) are the only ones holding the fort (and they do a great job don't get me wrong) and could do with a helping hand cleaning up spambots etc. Plus they will be extra busy having to approve posts all the time.

Zwoti is with us and he's been of immense help in controlling the spammers. But yes, we could do with a couple of extra hands these days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 913603)
None of the other mods are regular visitors/users on here so it's kinda pointless still having them as moderators. They should be bumped back to regular accounts and pass the responsibility should be passed onto the people that actually use the board.

....just a thought because with this system in place there almost needs to be a mod on round the clock for the board to function normally.

Kpropain has almost completely disappeared (he made an appearance once in the past 3-4 years), Austin is around (judging by the Last Activity times in his profile) but doesn't post anything and we don't know if he's moderating as well, Rayne's become very sporadic, and Flayed has been out for god knows how long. We need at least one replacement for Kpropain right now. Are the admins listening?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 913693)
This any closer to being sorted out? The board really sucks to use at the moment.

Trust me, we are as frustrated as you all are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by neverending (Post 913698)
V is away on a trip for several days, and he seems to be the only one the admins will communicate with.

And even I am left hanging and dry.

Horror never bothered to reply to any of my dozen emails since the spammers started appearing (or before actually, I sent him a couple emails and PMs asking for extra Moderators, IP viewings, some other forum features, etc.)

ElGato was in continuous touch the time he was online (he's Russian, btw), and he had the new Re-Captcha installed (which isn't working either as we all have found out), and has enabled the notification feature for registration of new members, and the IP viewing. And the problem with that - the new registration notification emails are coming only to my email (neither zwoti nor NE are getting them). Result, I am the only one doing all the banning from emails, sorting the spammers from the genuine member accounts.

Thankfully, all of us can view IPs now.

And what happens? I come back from a week long trip and sit down to ban 200-odd spammers who have registered in the meanwhile.

One good thing - the spammers have stopped posting for now. Looks like their external links posts/threads which are going directly into the Moderator's queue for approval and wasn't visible to them immediately after they posted, has become a deterrent for new spammers and old.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWickerFan (Post 913712)
I haven't encountered this problem yet. If you want to hold a conversation with someone, would private messaging be affected?

I don't think so. PMs shouldn't be affected with this "new" feature.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roshiq (Post 913722)
Totally agree.

There are many online forums where they have some fine measures to control spamming, like to share a link or post an image a member have to be regular & become enable to do such things after having a decent no. of posts (say 50 or 100 or may be more) in the forum/discussions. I think that 'unknown & irregular' admin of ours could apply this sorta measures instead of blocking posts from almost everyone here & later getting approved by the mods.

Which is one of the things I asked horror to enable. New members should be restricted to their first 25 posts (as a newbie) before they become a regular member. Needless to say, he never replied. I was going to ask ElGato to enable all this but he's disappeared from the past week as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by roshiq (Post 913722)
Already we have only couple of number of regular members here actually, which is pretty less than a year ago (I guess). Now, who knows...this sort of extra precautionary measure can cost HDC some more in coming days as it becoming frustrating everyday.

It is. I have noticed the number of posts have come down in the past 10-12 days. It is affecting the board.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fearonsarms (Post 913727)
This is getting more random by the day-trying to post my music collection in Elvis's thread there's been a day where I could post two pages, another day one page then yesterday five pages. Also it's not just long posts AND/OR links to external websites as posting my albums of the year I was able to make four posts but not the fifth. I agree with wicker it's messing with people's heads.

I think it's a preventive measure enabled by ElGato to prevent someone from spamming the board. But yes, if it is happening randomly then I don't see it's purpose. Also, maybe external links aren't the only one in the so-called "filter". Maybe specific words/phrases in posts/threads have been added to the "suspicious list" which makes them marked for Moderator approval.

All this has increased our workload hundredfold. It was actually easier when the spammers were popping online and we were banning them outright. :mad:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 913813)
Can I be a mod so I can approve my own posts?

Welcome to the team! We would LOVE to have you onboard!

Are you ready for a lot of shitwork, brickbats, sleepless days/nights and a round-the-clock job that doesn't pay even a penny? Then you are welcome to register. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWickerFan (Post 913816)
The administrators are a joke. I love how they're staying away so the mods get all the complaints about something they have almost no control over.

If only we all had the e-mail addresses of the admins. The flood of complaints heading their way would almost certainly get them to do their jobs.

Horror has never bothered to be online to deal with the problems of the board. There are no specific rules/guidelines to run the forum either, so we all go by the stuff which zwoti and Rayne hammered out in the "It Stops Now" thread, while using our own discretion and judgement in doing our best to run the forums smoothly. Periodical upgrades, regular contact, continuous interaction with members/Mods alike, are non-existent. In the end, it's just us against the rest.

What makes you think they will even bother to check your emails? They aren't even bothered to check MY emails! And to hope that they will do ANY jobs after getting emails from anyone, is a dream which can never be true.

It's a miracle that ElGato responded to my desperate email 2-3 weeks back when horror wasn't responding and spammers were popping up like mushrooms. Now it looks like even he has run out of options and he did all he could.

The only solution is an upgrade to the latest version, with the latest Spam Filters and bugs ironed out, with all loopholes in the vBulletin software plugged. The version which we are running is still the 2009 one (it's been 3 years!). Zwoti says it's amazing how even this outdated version has kept the spammers out for this long. It was just a matter of time.

I asked ElGato to upgrade the forums to the latest version of vBulletin. His silence means that this order has to come from horror himself. Looks like there are payment issues involved (or else if it was a free upgrade, ElGato would have done it in a flash), and we have to sit and wait for horror to come online for this.


Anyway, as regards all your posts going into the Mod queue, don't worry. Someone is always online to approve them (NE does most of the duty at nights, zwoti is here during the afternoon/evenings, and I am here in the morning and at nights), so post what you want and if it goes into the Mod queue, be patient for a bit. Please don't double post the same matter if you don't see your original post. One of us will always be around, I assure you.

ChronoGrl 12-21-2011 08:29 PM

More than happy to help! (seriously)

Sign me up!

Elvis_Christ 12-21-2011 09:53 PM

I'd be up for taking on the job too.

Ferox13 12-22-2011 02:21 AM

I think the only long term solution is that someone (who gives a shit about the forum) like V be given admin rights and let the people who actually use the board run it.

TheWickerFan 12-22-2011 02:35 AM

I would also be happy to moderate. I'm here constantly anyway, might as well do something useful.

I found a list of the 4 administrators, and everyone except Horror has logged on in the past week, so they must be aware of what's going on. I also sent a PM to ElGato, and he got back to me. Don't know if anything will come of it, but at least I heard from him, which is more than I can say for Horror.

Ferox13 12-22-2011 10:11 AM

Got my first one now..

I was posting the recipe to my famous Comrade Ilsa's Cranberry Sauce recipe..

your loss :-)


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