Lovie Smith is a genius..

No announcement at all, leaves Orton in 'til halftime, then springs Grossman on the Falcons content secondary.

He knew the Falcons were going to run and try to make those backup safetys cheat up for play action so he never really stacked the line.

Blitzed Urlacher early to get Vick to make bad decision rather than scramble.

I've never seen anybody match Vick step for step until I saw Urlacher chase him.

I'm waiting to see what happens when teams have a chance to make a gameplan against Grossman.

I guess you feel the bears have the best D because of the statistics and all the analysts tell you they are the best, but I feel the Bucs have the best D. I feel their D has a lot of heart.

Yeah, who cares about cold hard data? Fuck facts, dude. You can use facts to prove anything.

Rudy had heart, and he played for one play.

A lame Green Bay for a division clincher this weekend ? Merry Christmas, Bears fans :D
CK

I feel the Bears have the best Defense because I've seen them play. They're athletic,fast,hard hitting and relentless, every single play they go full speed and hit the closest moving thing.

They shut down one of the top(1-5 not sure) rushing teams in the league while Alex Brown and Brian Urlacher took care of Micheal Vick. How often over the past six years have you been able to say ''took care of Michael Vick''?

Meanwhile that heart filled Defense you're talking about got burned 28-0.

No such thing as a ''lame'' Packers-Bears game.

I know. I'm not a football fan until late in the season every year (don't ask), but I'll always watch a Bears-Packers game. I mean Green Bay team itself is lame. What was score last week ? 48-3 or something like that ? ouch.
CK

I know what you mean, the tables are turned for the time being with the Bears headed to the playoffs and the Packers looking forward to the offseason but there are some games where that stuff doesn't matter.

Bears-Packers
Broncos-Chiefs
Cowboys-Redskins
Saints-Falcons

ect. ect.


Example- late 90's Packers were at the top 6-0, Bears sucked 2-5...game went down to a game winning touchdown drive with 44 seconds left.

The Packers are gonna beat the Bears this weekend. The Bears haven't won at Lambeau in like 9 or 10 years. Despite their impending loss, the Bears could still clinch the division this week, it'll just be a question of whether the Vikes can beat the Ravens. I think we can. The Ravens are pretty weak, but ya never know with the Vikings... They're so damn hot or cold this year.


I've been saying it all along and I'm not gonna give it up now... Game 17 will be Vikes vs. Bears for the division.

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/TV/9805/2...snl/farley.jpg
"Final score ? Da Bears 178, Da Packers 2" :D
CK

Bears beat the Pack at Lambeau last season 21-10... WITH Rex Grossman. It was Lovie's first win as a coach.

Manning and James probably wont even play the whole first half, Harrison and June aren't playing at all.

I hate when teams do that.


R.I.P. JD:(

I would hope that Manning would at least start, he's got that string of consecutive starts to uphold.

And that is a sad note, that's terrible news about Dungy's son.

Yeah he's starting, the only reason Harrison and June aren't playing at all is because of injury although if circumstances were different I think Harrison would play but June's is legitimate.


I was gonna do it anyway but now getting Sunday Ticket is a must for next season. The first game on Fox blacks out about 90% of the time and I'm stuck with the Texans every week.

In Iowa we usually get Vikings games over Bears games... dunno why. How much is Sunday Ticket? Is it a monthly thing or one fat annual fee?

You can do it Sunday by Sunday,month to month or season to season. Don't remember exactly how much but it's a good chunk of change but you're getting every game for 17 weeks,well worth it.

Is it a digital cable thing or a dish thing?

Dish

Shit.

Apartments don't allow it?

I just don't have a dish, don't really have the scratch for it.

You watching the Colts game? This fucker actually coaching now.

I was watching til Manning came out. Honestly, does Seattle even know there's a right side of the field? All they do is run left... and it works.

They've got the best Tackle and Guard in the league so why not.

Wasn't really clear on that last post, Manning's the one I was talking about coaching, he's doing good, only problem is he aint running 'em.

Not to mention Strong the fullback... that guy's so underrated (besides the whole pro-bowl thing this year).

He's coaching? That's pretty sweet. I'm sure they're losing anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter... plus they don't have to win this game or the next, so fuck it.

Yeah, he's got the headset on calling plays,changing plays and everytime Sorgi comes off the field he goes to Manning and/or the assistant coach.


Strong is underrated with or without the pro bowl pick, with the exception of Alstott(who's a running back anyway) fullbacks of leading rushers always make the pro bowl.


Speaking of the pro bowl, don't you think it's bullshit that Vick got in? And how about Mike Peterson not getting in?

I've always said Vick is the most overrated player in football.

I don't really follow the Jaguars so I wouldn't be able to tell ya if Peterson was any good. But linebackers are ALWAYS looked over. The pro bowl is a popularity contest anyway, but no one watches it so I could care less.

Vikes choked. Damn, Tice is an idiot.

*Down by 2 scores with about 8 minutes to go. 4 and a couple on about the 40 and he fuckin' punts it.* :rolleyes:

Get some balls or get some heart or get the fuck off my football team, you fuckin' dumbass!

I really hope he gets fired in the off-season, but the Vikes 2nd half run might have saved his job. Damn it.

Technically it's not a choke if nobody expected it to happen.

Red Sox coming back on the Yanks from 0-3 was a choke..

Packers allowing the Eagles to convert a 4 and 26 was a choke..


Vikings not making the playoffs as bad as they are isn't a choke.

Vikings were winning and then they blew it. That's a choke. I wasn't refering to their whole season. All things considered, they'll be lucky to end it 7-9. That's better than I would have guessed at the start of the year.

I guess we just define the word differently...

A choke to you is a team who's winning,has a shot and losses, a choke to me is a team who doesn't do something they're expected to do.

A choke to me is any time someone doesn't do something that they should. To me, the Vikings should have won yesterday. They didn't so that was a choke. It doesn't have to be confined to 1 game, but in this case, it happens to be.

I'd say we define it the same. We just had different expectations.

When the Vikings have a lead after halftime (Especially a TD or more), I expect them to win. Especially against a rotten offense like Baltimore and especially when we're containing Lewis like we were.

Which 40 was it on?

If it's the Viks then I guess it's understandable(kinda) but if it was their 40 then I totally agree.

Well I didn't see the game and with the holiday I took off right after the Packer game and missed Primetime. If you say it was a halftime lead against the Ravens without any production from Lewis then they indeed should've won, then when you throw the playoffs in(which were still on the line at the time) then it's indeed a choke.

We were 40 yards from scoring an essential TD with about 8 minutes to go. Too far to kick a FG (Especially with that suckass Edinger.) but in my opinion, way too close to punt, and like you said... WIth the game and the playoffs on the line too!

I hate Tice. If I ever met him, I'd be getting arrested because I'd definately kick him in the balls.

What balls?

Punting from your 40 is showing confidence in your defense(but with the situation still a bit questionable)but punting from the other 40 is the exact opposite, showing no confidence in your defense or yourself for that matter.

With the Bears winning they weren't going to make the playoffs anyway so instead of being ticked off about it just look at that punt as most likely being the play that'll get you what you want...a new coach.

What I want is a Vikings playoff run followed up by a surprise SuperBowl win. But since we blew that, a new coach will have to suffice.

I sure hope our little 6 game win streak (Through all the adversity of losing the starting QB and the Love Boat. :rolleyes: ) wasn't enough to save it for him.

Well after the Bears won, my post-season hopes were pretty much deflated, BUT we were sstill alive in the WC race. (Albeit behind 2 other teams for the last spot.) but we had a chance (However slim, we woulda have played week 17 with playoffs on the line.) But they fucked that up...


Not a good enough record for the playoffs, but good enough to not be getting a good draft pick... Damn them! I swear that some day theiy're gonna result in the heart attack that eventually kills me.

bwind22
1980 - ???
Cause of death - Terminal letdown by way of Minnesota

I actually knew somebody that had a heart attack and died after a terrible call during a Vikes game back in the late 80s.