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Smackytherabbit 02-08-2008 11:23 PM

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Do you think the Horror Genre is in trouble?
Yes, but i also think this should be changed to "American Horror"
Its been in trouble for a long time.
Then again, im not quite sure if they were ever not in trouble.

While some of the best horror was pre 1970, it was never a huge genre. Of course you can name specific movies that did great, but for the most part is was more of a selective genre that less people enjoyed (compared to others).

Between the mid 70s and early 90s was this massive influx at-the-time shock slasher. Few actually any good and even fewer were creative. But many enjoyed them because of the seemly exploitation of sex and gore in the same picture.

Then the mid 90s come along and we got this horrid flow of absolutely terrible teen slashes like "Scream" and "i know what you want to do last summer" or whatever the hell it was. And to make it even even more pathetic, like the 80s with slashers, we had worse copies of the horrid movies "Scream" and "i know what you want to do last summer".

And now it seems we have two types of horror.
1. Remakes of old good movies (that turn out shitty) and remakes of good Asian horror movies (that turn out shitty). Also, this trend has not just stuck to the horror genre.
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2. New shock. Saw 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11...18,213.... Decent, High Tention, Hostel, ect.
While they do seem to be a bit higher quality than the 80s counter parts, that could also just be technological advances rather than better staff, directors, writers, actors, little things that dont seem to matter in cinema now.


I guess when i take a look back at horror, the only time it was really "not in trouble" was when it was just a factory producing crap genre or a semi-underground genre that the good movies did not get the respect they deserved.

Despare 02-09-2008 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Smackytherabbit (Post 665245)
Yes, but i also think this should be changed to "American Horror"

Asian horror also has a problem with quantity over quality. Everybody wants to make a ton of money so they just release as much crap as possible hoping that one movie really hits.

Smackytherabbit 02-09-2008 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 665265)
Asian horror also has a problem with quantity over quality. Everybody wants to make a ton of money so they just release as much crap as possible hoping that one movie really hits.

Oh they do too. Trust me, ive seen plenty of bad horror movies that involved long black haired girls and creepy kids, just like the slasher genre these are being pumped out like crazy.
But at least with some foreign horror (not just asian) there is still some creativity rather than just cash cows.

cruise 02-11-2008 09:23 AM

I think there may be a bit of trouble. Sure, there are folks making new stuff, but some of it we will never see. Sin-Jin Smyth by Snapkick had great things said about it both during and post production. However no one seems to want to take a chance on it and it seems it will never get released. WTF?
Too bad, So sad...:mad:

Jimmey_Cuisinart 02-14-2008 11:00 AM

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It seems to me that horror films are the number one made indy film. There are actually so many low budget horror films being made that the marketability has decreased because of the over saturation on the market.

I'm not a big fan of the remakes, but I watch them anyway and always find some enjoyment out of them.

Jimmey

gracie 02-16-2008 09:29 PM

A couple of my fav movies were remakes, namely Dawn of the Dead and The hills have eyes. Both better than the originals in my eyes.
I think when it comes to remakes the quality of the originals needs to looked at. I think that Craven's Hills have eyes was an interesting story but used cheesy effects and was a little comedic in places. So take the interesting story, step it up with far better effects and a better director in Aja and I see it as a no risk. On the other hand take a master piece like Carpenters Halloween and only bad things can happen.
So remake movies that missed the mark but had potential.

Despare 02-16-2008 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gracie (Post 666659)
A couple of my fav movies were remakes, namely Dawn of the Dead and The hills have eyes. Both better than the originals in my eyes.
I think when it comes to remakes the quality of the originals needs to looked at. I think that Craven's Hills have eyes was an interesting story but used cheesy effects and was a little comedic in places. So take the interesting story, step it up with far better effects and a better director in Aja and I see it as a no risk. On the other hand take a master piece like Carpenters Halloween and only bad things can happen.
So remake movies that missed the mark but had potential.

I can't believe there are actually people who prefer the new Dawn over the original. To choose a vapid, special effects romp like the remake over Romero's original leads me to believe that we have people out there with diabetes of the pupils... simply too much eye candy.

Staplez 02-17-2008 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 666663)
I can't believe there are actually people who prefer the new Dawn over the original.

I cant either. I didnt hate the remake, in and of itself I didnt think it was all that bad. Dosnt hold a candle to the orginal though.

gracie 02-17-2008 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 666663)
I can't believe there are actually people who prefer the new Dawn over the original. To choose a vapid, special effects romp like the remake over Romero's original leads me to believe that we have people out there with diabetes of the pupils... simply too much eye candy.

Fast zombies are better than slow zombies ;)

Despare 02-17-2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gracie (Post 666688)
Fast zombies are better than slow zombies ;)

Actually slow zombies build more tension and create a creepier atmosphere. It's great because they're so easily dispatched until they gather in numbers and groups fall apart or make a mistake. Fast zombies are ok but they really don't create the same environment of terror.


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