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urgeok 10-05-2006 06:24 AM

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Originally posted by hellfire1
X-men 3: the last stand.

just... lacking. don't know if it was the bad dialogue, or lack thereof, or the character underdevelopment, or how they tried to cram as much possible into the movie, but it just left me disappointed. good action though. good effects. nice to see some characters have a little more screen time, but it wasn't enough. ah well...


i was underwhealmed also.

my buddy's take on it was that they got so caught up in the 'mutant as a symbolism for gay' focus that they lost track of what made the series so popular up til now.

the focus on character developement was lost. Most comics - the ones people love - are nothing more than soap operas. People love to watch the characters evolve through interraction.
X-3 wasnt concerned with it (much the same thing happened in the 3rd Harry Potter movie)

technically they are good - lots of action and FX but lacking in heart.


re the 'gay' thing - i think he's dead on ... one guy even 'flew out of the closet'

hellfire1 10-05-2006 06:36 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i was underwhealmed also.

re the 'gay' thing - i think he's dead on ... one guy even 'flew out of the closet'


hahaha... probably !

but it is typical brett ratner, isn't it... get straight to the action and forget all the rest. what gets me is that there's so much to work with, the comic is so rich. but, making quality films isn't exactly what big studios preoccupy themselves with.


hehe... flew out of the closet.. hehe :D

urgeok 10-05-2006 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by hellfire1
hahaha... probably !

but it is typical brett ratner, isn't it... get straight to the action and forget all the rest. what gets me is that there's so much to work with, the comic is so rich. but, making quality films isn't exactly what big studios preoccupy themselves with.


hehe... flew out of the closet.. hehe :D

they for the most part preoccupy themselves with making guaranteed money - by pandering to the young demographic with a microscopic attention span. sad but true ...

stygianwitch 10-05-2006 11:02 AM

Scarecrow..... well the first 45 mins.... what a f*cking booooring movie :(

zwoti 10-05-2006 02:13 PM

sneakers

Roderick Usher 10-05-2006 03:11 PM

TCM 2

"music is my life":)

Geddy 10-05-2006 03:22 PM

Last seen movie
 
Alice Cooper-Welcome to my nightmare concert.

Despare 10-05-2006 03:57 PM

Chaos
Poor copy of LHotL. Didn't hate it like I expected to but the director is an idiot. He claims that half of everything he knows comes from the media and I'm surprised he didn't say that everything he knows comes from the media.

The_Return 10-05-2006 04:55 PM

Ok, so it didnt live up of the first two films, but you have to admit that X-3 was pretty entertaining. Go read some of the really early X-Men comics, I thought it was alot like those.

noctuary 10-05-2006 06:00 PM

Lilya 4-Ever

This movie made me feel like nothing in the world will ever be okay. It's more depressing than Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, my previous record holder for "saddest movie ever." I'd recommend it, but be prepared to feel totally miserable after watching.

newb 10-05-2006 06:04 PM

Wifey is off to see a play [Beauty and the Beast...she actually asked me if I wanted to go....married 25 years...you would think she'd know me by now] so I pulled down the big screen and threw a concert on.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

urgeok 10-05-2006 06:44 PM

The Time MAchine (The Guy Pierce version)

newb 10-05-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
The Time MAchine (The Guy Pierce version)
I was very disappointed in that.

urgeok 10-05-2006 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by newb
I was very disappointed in that.
i didnt mind it ...

my wife kept complaining about the music - said it sounded like the lion king

The Mothman 10-05-2006 07:17 PM

Undead 7/10

why is it that people say this movie is so bad? other than the edning (which did hurt the movie quite a bit) it was kick ass. plenty of gore, great special FX and endless zombie carnage. what is it about this movie that people hate so much?

Santa's Slay
7.5/10

kick ass. goldberg fucks people up. not everyones cup of tea however. this movie was also rediculously controversial. dont watch if jewish or easily offended.

CrimsonFiend138 10-05-2006 07:59 PM

Re: Re: Re: Last seen movie
 
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Originally posted by Geddy
What about Zelda in Pet sematary She's friggin creepy.
YOUR DAMN RIGHT SHE WAS FREAKY!!! Everytime is see Zelda I get chills up my spine.

Despare 10-05-2006 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by The Mothman
Undead 7/10

why is it that people say this movie is so bad? other than the edning (which did hurt the movie quite a bit) it was kick ass. plenty of gore, great special FX and endless zombie carnage. what is it about this movie that people hate so much?

I actually thought the ending (if you mean the whole twist thing that I won't spoilt) was the only highlight of the film. I disliked the characters, thought the action was trite and poorly executed, and felt that the pacing was bad. I enjoyed VERY little of that movie in fact I think I only liked the story, the zombie fish, and the sawblade on a broomhandle part. Maybe I should give it another shot but I doubt my opinion on this one will change.

bwind22 10-05-2006 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by The Mothman
Undead 7/10

why is it that people say this movie is so bad? other than the edning (which did hurt the movie quite a bit) it was kick ass. plenty of gore, great special FX and endless zombie carnage. what is it about this movie that people hate so much?

Not sure. I didn't mind it for the most part. In fact, I believe I really enjoyed it all the way up til the last portion.

bwind22 10-05-2006 10:45 PM

X-3: The Last Stand

Well, being a BIG fan of the comic books and a pretty big fan of the first two movies, I had high hopes for this. I'm pleased to say they were met, not exceeded, but met. I thought this was a pretty good take on the Dark Phoenix storyline but what I didn't like was the "Pussifying of Wolverine" that took place. In the original X-Men movie, I thought they made Wolverine too much of a softy, then in the sequel, I thought they nailed his character perfectly, but in this third installment it's like they sent him back down the road to being a wuss. Wolverine crying? Come on! You'd never see that in the comics!!! He did have his moments of being a bad ass, but like I mentioned he had his moments f being a punk ass as well. The FX were excellent in this, especially during the scenes with Juggernaut & the Golden Gate Bridge. Overall, I was highly entertained and only mildly annoyed with the mis use of characters.

B+


And as for this film supposedly being a metaphor for gay rights... I will tell you right now, it's not. And anyone that thinks it is has obviously never read the comic books because the humans fearing/hating/wanting to cure the mutants has been an ongoing storyline since the comics came out in the early 60s. If anything it was probably more of a parallel to the Civil Rights movement back then, but it is certainly not something new that Hollywood just came up with to bring attention to some homosexual agenda. It's always been a part of the X-Men story.

the_real_linda 10-05-2006 11:27 PM

i watched lots of weird animation short films....and lady vengence

Geddy 10-06-2006 02:44 AM

Last seen movie
 
I just finished A Nightmare On Elm Street about 5 minutes ago.Definately my favourite horror movie.

urgeok 10-06-2006 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by bwind22
[B]
B+


And as for this film supposedly being a metaphor for gay rights... I will tell you right now, it's not. And anyone that thinks it is has obviously never read the comic books because the humans fearing/hating/wanting to cure the mutants has been an ongoing storyline since the comics came out in the early 60s. If anything it was probably more of a parallel to the Civil Rights movement back then, but it is certainly not something new that Hollywood just came up with to bring attention to some homosexual agenda. It's always been a part of the X-Men story.


i did read the comics .. and yep that theme was there - but it lends itself to the theme of the moral majority wanting to 'cure gays' - not understanding them - feeling threatened by them.

the theme was there before for sure but its easy to see where the person who made this film took the ball and ran with it in s slightly different bent. its in the aesthetic of the film, not just the history of the comic.

Disease 10-06-2006 04:01 AM

I went and saw Macbeth today, I thought it was great. It's an australian adaptation based on the melbourne underground crime scene. I have a friend who plays girl shooter one, she died in the first five minutes. But it was a cool movie by Geoffery Wright.

alkytrio666 10-06-2006 04:45 AM

Before I went to the award ceremony, I watched The Graduate (1967) for the 25th time or so.

ManchestrMorgue 10-06-2006 06:43 AM

Watched Dirty Harry followed by Magnum Force .

The late 60's and 70's were a golden age for cinema.

Despare 10-06-2006 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i did read the comics .. and yep that theme was there - but it lends itself to the theme of the moral majority wanting to 'cure gays' - not understanding them - feeling threatened by them.

the theme was there before for sure but its easy to see where the person who made this film took the ball and ran with it in s slightly different bent. its in the aesthetic of the film, not just the history of the comic.

Anybody who is "different" people want to "cure" and people often feel threatened by them. If gay people could tear stuff up with claws, shoot fire balls, and control my mind THEN I'd be scared.

bwind22 10-06-2006 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
i did read the comics .. and yep that theme was there - but it lends itself to the theme of the moral majority wanting to 'cure gays' - not understanding them - feeling threatened by them.

the theme was there before for sure but its easy to see where the person who made this film took the ball and ran with it in s slightly different bent. its in the aesthetic of the film, not just the history of the comic.




I guess I don't see where you're coming from on this. You realize that was a longstanding premise, but you think the premise in the movie is somehow different than the one in the comic book? What specifically in the film made you correlate mutants to homos?

urgeok 10-06-2006 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by bwind22
I guess I don't see where you're coming from on this. You realize that was a longstanding premise, but you think the premise in the movie is somehow different than the one in the comic book? What specifically in the film made you correlate mutants to homos?

not 'different' per say - i just think the filmmaker took the opportunity to use it as sort of a parable to mirror the gay persecution.

especially angels story ...

i'm not saying you have to see it - but it sure seems obvious to me ..

i guess it doesnt help that Sir Ian Mckellen is their leader :)

hammerfan 10-06-2006 07:57 AM

Vamp. Ah, the good old 80s!

urgeok 10-06-2006 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by hammerfan
Vamp. Ah, the good old 80s!

holy shit, after all this time you're just going through them now ? :p

bwind22 10-06-2006 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
not 'different' per say - i just think the filmmaker took the opportunity to use it as sort of a parable to mirror the gay persecution.

especially angels story ...

i'm not saying you have to see it - but it sure seems obvious to me ..

i guess it doesnt help that Sir Ian Mckellen is their leader :)


I guess I see what you're saying, although I just didn't see it in the film.


I assume that means Ian Mckellen is gay then? I don't pay very close attention to celebrity gossip. He sure looked gay in his helmet though.

urgeok 10-06-2006 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by bwind22
I guess I see what you're saying, although I just didn't see it in the film.


I assume that means Ian Mckellen is gay then? I don't pay very close attention to celebrity gossip. He sure looked gay in his helmet though.


oh yeah, he's a champion of gay rights ..

there is a story i should look up to verify it ..

something about him 'coming out' to piss off Thatcher at the time

urgeok 10-06-2006 08:20 AM

here's a mention of it :

http://gaylife.about.com/od/gayceleb...ckellengay.htm

Vodstok 10-06-2006 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
oh yeah, he's a champion of gay rights ..

there is a story i should look up to verify it ..

something about him 'coming out' to piss off Thatcher at the time

Ian Mckellan is, in fact, gay. (yes yes, we all know, "Gandalf the gay") He has been quoted as saying he wished he had stayed in the closet because as soon as he came out, everybody and his brother's boyfriend wanted him to do stuff for them (parades, spokesmanship, etc.)

He basically wants to be himslef and act and be left alone about the whole thing. Last i heard, anyway.

hammerfan 10-06-2006 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
holy shit, after all this time you're just going through them now ? :p
Oh, hell no! This is about the 5th or 6th time watching it!

urgeok 10-06-2006 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by hammerfan
Oh, hell no! This is about the 5th or 6th time watching it!
well, looks like i need to start working on a new batch

(after i get everyone elses done)

hammerfan 10-06-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
well, looks like i need to start working on a new batch

(after i get everyone elses done)

Wow, really??!! You are the most awesome person!!! <3

bwind22 10-06-2006 09:08 AM

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Originally posted by urgeok
here's a mention of it :

http://gaylife.about.com/od/gayceleb...ckellengay.htm



Hmmm... I had no idea. I'll tell ya the 1 person I have heard is gay but is not out of his closet yet though... Dave Courier. Yep, Uncle Joey on Full House. I have a friend that worked at a video store in Hollywood & she said Dave Courier used to come in there like once a week and buy a bunch of gay porn movies.

urgeok 10-06-2006 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by bwind22
Hmmm... I had no idea. I'll tell ya the 1 person I have heard is gay but is not out of his closet yet though... Dave Courier. Yep, Uncle Joey on Full House. I have a friend that worked at a video store in Hollywood & she said Dave Courier used to come in there like once a week and buy a bunch of gay porn movies.
Alan Cumming is another gay actor who's pretty open about it..

Despare 10-06-2006 09:16 AM

Lady Vengance

Beautiful, every film in the trilogy has been a treat and it will be really hard to wait for the special editions to buy them.


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