not so much disco - but over produced sterile music ..
the pistols were all about stripping it down and getting back to basic rock and roll .. a la the eddie cochrane covers (scuse me if i spelled his name wrong)

everything i heard about the pistols were that it was all noise, they couldnt play, etc , etc ... then i heard the bollocks album and it blew my socks off ..
to this day it's still one of the best rock albums of all times.

i'm not a musician, just a fan ...

I started with the first clash album and bought pretty much every one that came out (all on vinyl - still have them)

i could never listen to more than one or two songs at a time ...

and by the time Combat Rock hit - and radio clash ? ugh ... its terrible...

like i said - personal preference - i dont dislike them but i was never that crazy about them ..


but i fucking love the pistols ..

:rolleyes: Combat Rock...... terrible album.
I've never really been huge on The Clash either. They defintaley had some great songs but none of their albums have ever really kept me interested. I watched their move Rude Boy recently and enjoyed it a lot.
The Pistols and a lot of the 'punk' bands mentioned here are rock n roll bands to me. Punk for me never really kicked of until bands like Crass and Discharge came onto the scene. But as far as I'm concerned is more an attitude than a style of music. The first punk in my opinion was Hank Williams then their were the 60s garage bands like The Sonics (these guys started the so-called 'punk sound' and were highly influential on bands like the MC5, Stooges ect).

Would you say that The Pistol have talent?

The Pistols had talent.

Sid didn't even know how to play. That should speak volumes about their "talent" level. :rolleyes:

The put out a pretty fucking awesome album I say that shows talent. Good music isn't about technique...... there's plenty of artists that can do amazing stuff techwise that in my opinion are untalented hacks in my eyes.

I couldn't agree more. Like Led Zepplin

Hey, Elvis. You gotta check out these clowns. I found them looking for Crass pictures. I finlly decided too listen too them. I'll tell you more about them in a bit.

http://tommygunpunx.tripod.com/id2.html

talent can be measured in many ways ...
it's impossible to put out an album that good without some
form of talent ... raw energy used effectively is talent ...

so yeah.

(although Malcolm may have had more talent than all of them)

like said in an earlier post - there are people who are extremely competent with their instruments - but they lack something ...

look at an obvious example ... celine dion .... sure she has a powerful incredible voice - but she choses to use it on garbage music (in my opinion)

the technically proficient members of Yes have talent ... but i'd take Bollocks over any Yes album anyday...

yeah i'd say that the pistols were talented ... maybe not technically proficient - but that didnt matter as far as the music they chose to make ...

:rolleyes: I'm really close to hopping on a plane to kick their fucking ass. One day they'll figure out how cliched they are. I'm sick to fucking death of Misfits T-shirts there everywhere (don't get me wrong I love the band). Another band logo thats become a fashionable T-shirt to wear (like the Motorhead and Ramones t-shirt phase.... not sure if its the same over there but its whats happened here).

Glad someone else can't stand Led Zeppelin either. I'm so sick of hearing about how great they were blah blah..... one thing that really fucks me of about them is their fucking stupid lyrics. They were just a big penis that had nothing to say.

ahhh i love old Zep ...but i dont go on about them ..


the Tshirts i'm sick of are the Cobain ones.

LOL,

Is there a female singer in the crass? If there is, I think I like her more than the male singer. Pretty good band. I wanna listen to more songs before I give my verdict.

The first two did have some cool shit on them but I just can't stand them anymore because of continued thrashing of them by friends & enemies alike. Zep are a band that just seems to eclipse a lot of good old shit and people just don't relise that there are other groups out there. There's some bands I just wish I'd never heard of so I could rediscover them again (Beatles, Floyd, The Ramones and a bunch of other oldies). But Zep will still always be a bit too self indulgent for me especially these days that shit just doesn't cut it with me anymore.

Yeh those Cobain T-Shirts fucked me off enough the first time around total exploitation.... it's lame there rearing their ugly head again. Nothing's scared anymore and the comodify anything.

Yep there is a female singer in Crass. If you dig the female singer you should check out the album Penis Envy its mainly her vocals. My favorite Crass record is Feeding of the 5000. Crass will always be an important band to me because they were the first group to deal with woman's rights issues in a effective way. I really like a lot of their music because it had a crazy no-wave thing going on way before anyone did it. Their artwork was always great too I love how the LP covers would fold out into a awesome poster (my favorite is the Your Country Needs You one).
http://www.akuk.com/images_sm/akcat_3897.jpg

http://www.southern.com/southern/ban...cs/07001SL.jpg

Check out Aus Rotten - The Rotten Agenda especially for the songs Modern Day Witchunt and The Second Rape. The Promise Keepers off ....And Now Back To Our Programming is a awesome track too it will kick your ass I promise....

http://www.static-pulse.com/ausrotten/agenda.jpg

Well, I guess talent, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder....

And when I'm beholdin', I say the Pistols didn't have musical talent! (They are the epitome of "punk" though.)

Just kidding, but I do say we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Im a classic punker and i never new i had any class to!!!

Alternative Punker :confused: w/e

I got "Punk Rocker".