I'm pretty sure the first guy to be tortured screamed like a little girl the whole time. But I see where you're coming from.

Don't worry, I remember that vividly. He was the only guy I couldn't stand. Besides him though, they didn't cry their damn asses off (to my recolation).

He's Mc Bain's brother in the Simpson's

And on the screaming thing... It's nice to see you are all so fucking hard that you wouldn't think about shitting yourself until the precise moment the tendons to your ankles are slit. I personally would have shat the moment I was tied to a chair surrounded by grot. On a side note, female screaming can't ruin a film, it's a horror film staple. Tell me the last 30 mins of texas chainsaw would have been half as effective without that whinging bitch Marilyn Burns squealing like a poof in a dildo factory. I think not.

I'm one to admit defeat, and I I'll admit it, you've got strong facts backing up your cause. Though I will state that the women screaming in hostel II wasn't the problem that I had with the film. I just hated those women. Plain and simple. But, like I mentioned, I'm admitting defeat right now. Damn your good! I respect you. Please don't leave like most new members do.